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New MessageDual nationality (modified 0 times) cintapants
Hi everyone - I've noticed that this has been touched on a few times in the forums, but with no real result.
I gather that many others have experience of this - so would be very grateful if you could share your experiences.

- I am a Malaysian citizen that was born in the UK - Malaysia does not recognise Dual Nationality
- Back in 1992 when I returned to the country, I was given the CoE-Right to Abode
- I became resident in this country, but returning to Malaysia frequently enough never to raise suspicion
- Over time, my career required a significant amount of EU and US travel - and the Malaysian passport caused real issues with my frequent travel in and out of the non-UK countries
- I decided to take-up the option to get a British Passport in 2004 to get over this. I also renewed my Malaysian passport in 2004 - which has been a dream, because this gave me almost border-less travel around the world on my British passport and Asia on my Malaysian one. Malaysia assumes that I have ROA as per my passport, so no questions asked about entry stamps and length of time spent in the UK

... UNTIL NOW...

- I renewed my Malaysian passport this month in London and need to transfer my ROA from one passport to another
- But as per the British rule change in 2006, I am now no longer allowed to have a CoE of Right to Abode in my Malaysian passport, because I also have a British one - PROBLEMO!
- The next time I go back to Malaysia (which is an annual event), they will notice that I have no ROA stamp in my passport. This will ultimately raise suspicions about dual nationality and I will be faced with the horror of having to CHOOSE one nationality over the other.

- I do not want to give up my Malaysian citizenship. I don't want my cultural identity wrenched away from me. Moreover, I am an East Malaysian - which means that I can travel to and from Malaysian Borneo without ANY restriction - a real luxury as even Peninsula Malaysians are only granted a 3-month leave to remain in Sabah/Sarawak
- My folks live in Malaysia - I want to be able to see them often and stay in my 'motherland'
- My career still means I travel a lot within the EU and USA, I don't want to have to queue at embassies (let alone being singled out at US immigration because of my Malaysian passport (which has happened about 6 times now) everytime I need to go away for a meeting in New York.
- In the future, I may want to return to East Malaysia - and should I have children, I want them to have the choice of being Malaysian or British too

Can anyone offer any advice????
(1) How can I retain both?
(2) How can I come and go through Malaysia without been 'found-out'?

Ie - How can I have my cake and eat it? LOL

Thanks so much in advance!

03 Jun, 2009 23:20:16

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Halloween
any penalty if holding dual nationality?
09 Jun, 2009 10:09:33

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) sarawakian
Simply staple both the old and new Malaysian passports together. Malaysia Immigration wouldn't ask you why your ROA hasn't been transfered
to the new one. When you enter UK show your British passport.
13 Jun, 2009 19:46:25

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Troika
I was told that a child born outside Malaysia with a Malaysian father, will need to choose if he will be a Malaysian at the age of consent (18 I think). The child should be registered before the age of 1 and have a borang W. Malaysia does not recognise dual-citizenships. Until the age of consent, they're in some sort of quasi-dual citizenship status.
17 Aug, 2009 13:31:42

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) julie1
Please let me know if there is any further information relating to this, as I am also in the same situation and visiting Malaysia next year on a Malaysian passport with no ROA!
09 Dec, 2009 03:28:29

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) alex
you don't need to need to transfer the Right of Abode sticker into your new Malaysian passport, everytime you travel you just need to take all the passports from the last passport with the sticker in to your most recent one (I know some of my friends carry 3-4 passports around with them).

When you do travel to Malaysia make sure you leave the British passport in Britain and travel back using your Malaysian passportS (emphasising on the multiple of passports as mentioned above), you will be able to return to the UK with no problem since you can present an indefinite leave to remain sticker in one of your previous Malaysian passports

30 Apr, 2010 04:20:37

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Tommy of Melbourne
What Alex suggested was perfect. Another alternative way is by travelling into/out of Singapore using your UK/OZ Passport and then take a bus/car/train into/out of JB, Msia by using Msian passport. But you must always remember to have/use your Msian passport when you go into/out of JB immigration otherwise you will be in deep ####s if wrong passport is presented. This dual citizenship can only be done (I presume) if the Malaysian passport is always renewed back in Msia whenever it is expired and not in the Msian embassy in UK or OZ, otherwise the Msian Embassy there will able to find out by checking with the local immigration office in regard to your citizenship status.
27 May, 2010 22:06:36

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Lee.
Don't be greedy...you must choose either one soon or later only. I think your main concern would be your taxing and career.
05 Jun, 2010 02:02:49

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
I have always had R O A certificates on my Malaysian passports, happily transfering them free of charge on to renewed passports. R O A certs are no longer transferable, and must be reapplied at a cost of over 300 for each new passport. #### expensive!! I recently returned from Malaysia with my renewed MAL passport issued by High Com London plus carried my old MAL passport (issued in Bintulu Sarawak) with the R O A with me. The Border Official told me that as long as I have the latest old passport with the R O A cert, I was not subject to UK border controls, and I was at liberty to join the UK queue. My Malaysian passport was not even stamped!!!In and out of Malaysia I usually use the automatic barriers, unless they are not working. My only malaysian border stamps are between Miri KL, when I was too lazy to show my Sarawak ID Card. So Cintapants, if you read this note, when travelling to Malaysia, only bring your Malaysian passports with you. Officials have been known to do a search, and if they find you carrying a non Malaysian travel doccument,.... say goodbye to your malaysian citizenship. As for your children, have them in the UK, but register them with the High Com London, making sure you show your Sarawak 'K' IC, otherwise they will loose their 'Sarawak Citizenship'. Now you can have your cake and eat it. Further, there is no need to carry all your old passports as Alex said, just the latest old one!! Finally, if you register with IRIS, then all you have to do at the UK Border Control is to show your EYES to a camera!!!All the Amoh Langs are amazed how fast I get through immigration at heathrow or gatwick!
05 Jun, 2010 23:32:42

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Frustrated Ahmad
I find the Malaysian Coverment's attitude on Dual Nationality somewhat repugnant and annoying. The Malaysian goverment should realise that when Bapa Malaysia accepted independance from his masters he condoned dual nationality, by allowing those born in the straits settlements before 1948 to have dual citizenship i.e. citizen of the united kingdom and malaysian citizen. Malaysian goverment officials, what are you worried about? If a person has citizenship of another country and chooses to exercise it, then it is the responsibility of the host country to address , not Malaysia's!!!! Your only responsibility is to someone travelling with a Malaysian passport. In other areas you are experts in ignoring your responsibilities and commitments so what is new here?? Listen you goverment bumiputras, its time you came out of your silly mindset, otherwise Mahathir's 2020 will never happen. Allow the flexibility of dual passports for travelling. You should realise that caucasian areas have distorted mindsets and many Malaysians suffer when travelling with Malaysian passports. Until you enforce tit for tat measures, many malaysians will try to obtain foreign passports, not because they want the citizenship, but because it facilitates a less chance of being stopped by a bias immigration official without any scrupples. Either you stop these senseless and unwarrented discrimination activities to avoid malaysian embarraments at border controls, or issue us with diplomatic passports. There is a precedent. Mahathier did it to one of our Malaysian bisnessmen after a silly stupid US Immigration official applied his usual ignorrance.
13 Aug, 2010 01:32:59

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Orang Ulu
"We have to conduct a study on the pros and cons and make a political decision," said Malaysian High Commissioner to Britain Datuk Abdul Aziz Mohamad.
The Government had always been pragmatic in terms of looking at issues, he said in response to the suggestion on dual nationality by Asean-UK Business Forum president S.K. Lingam.
Aziz said the issue was something new, as the country's laws and system did not provide for dual citizenship. Sat, Jan 24, 2009" in the STAR?!! Two responses below

1. Patience Bros Patience. We must allow Malaysian Gov. to have due study process. Read Quotes above. Datuk Aziz you are wrong. Subject is NOT NEW. Frustrated Ahmad is correct about Bapa Malaysia and straits settlements. May you long continue your studies......... THIS VIEW FROM ANNONYMUS.

2. Allo Malaysians, why you so silly? Why you wan two citizen for?? No need lah. Many many goverment children already have two citizenship. This OK. Too many of big shot already happening. Enough Enough, Goverment can cheat, but not simple people.. NO DUAL NATIONAL for every person.......THIS MALAYSIAN GOVERMENT RESPONSE

30 Dec, 2010 22:47:57

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) elm0kiss
i am looking at getting my oz citizenship as well and i have renewed my malaysian passport at malaysian high consulate in canberra. does it mean that i will never be able to "play the trick" because they have my information in their system now?
16 Mar, 2011 20:55:16

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
ElmOkiss Malaysia does not allow Duel Nationally. You say you have renewed your “MY” passport. Does your old passport show that you have right of entry into this “OZ” place??. Can it be transferred to you new “MY” passport??

When applying for your citizenship be open with your situation, and ask them if they do inform the Malaysian High Com there of your application. In UK, when applying for a Brit Passport the Brit Government used to send the Malaysian passport back to Malaysia, but as far as I know, they do not do this anymore.

DO NOT travel to Malaysia with two Passports. Leave your foreign passport behind. If for any reason, you are searched by an immigration officer or police in Malaysia, and they find you have a document indicating you are a citizen of another country, they will clip the corner of your Malaysia Passport and you will loose your Malaysia Citizenship. If you are not fussed about loosing your Malaysian status, then take a chance, and live with any consequences.

17 Mar, 2011 18:51:53

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) elm0kiss
yeah, i think i will ask the question when it comes.
19 Mar, 2011 12:13:20

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) S123
I have a question. With now holding a ROA-less Malaysian passport and British passport, working in Malaysia with the Msian identity, what is the consequences if I get caught, somehow? And if let's say I hold some professional membership like Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA), is this immigration dual nationality issue a problem to professional licence, in terms of ethics and violations?

What is the penalty? Jail? Fine?

Many thanks!!

-S123

31 Jul, 2011 15:53:04

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Orang Ulu
S123, you should carefully read what Miri Boy has written. Does your malaysian passport have a stamp beginning "Given leave to entre for etc etc etc"? If so you can maintain your UK status provided you return within a two year period. Malaysia does allow professional qualifications and I know many who are Lawyers both in UK and Malaysia.
Provided you renew your malaysian passport you can travel in and out of the UK if you carry your old passport with the "Given leave to entre...." endorsement to show the border control officer. Do beware of carrying another passport into Malaysia showing you have another nationality. Modern electronics can detect and read what is in your luggage!
If the Malaysian authorities find a foreign passport on you you will loose your Malaysian Citizenship. I have a few Malaysian friends who still work in the UK and some who are back in Malaysia, but have to come back every two years to maintain their UK status.
31 Jul, 2011 23:00:40

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) S123
Orang Ulu, my situation is a bit complicated. I used to have ROA on my msian passport but lost that passport and they refused to give me a new passport at the msian embassy in UK. So I had no choice but to pick up a british passport. Years later, I am back to msia for good and successfully reapplied the msian passport. Unintentionally holding two passports. As i understand it, the lost expired msian identity might have overstayed in the UK, although I already have the UK status. I do not know if I should clear that, and how to clear that. Now permanently in msia, do i still have to go back to UK every two years to maintain the uk status?
09 Aug, 2011 14:59:34

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Orang Ulu
Gee S123, Your situation is complicated!!!! To have got a new passport you would have had to produce a lost police report etc etc. I am unsure how you resolve your situation.

Your UK Passport is valid for 10 years. You do not have to prove you are Brit Cit unless your facial features substancially change. If then you have to submit proof etc etc, when renewing your brit passport. So for the present and up to the validity of your Brit Passport you can go in and out of the UK without any problem.

From what I can gather, you have come back to Malaysia on a Brit Passport and therefore the records show that you have overstayed your "Welcome", in Malaysia as a Brit Cit. Subsequently, you applied for a Mal Passport here in Malaysia, so I presume you have an IC etc etc.
The problem you have is the immigration passport stamps you should have on your malaysian passport including the "Given leave to entre" stamp, for the Malaysia Immigration authorities to show you have UK abode.
If you value your Brit Cit, then I would go to the UK with your two Passports, enter with your Malaysia Passport, and then go to the home Office in Croydon and explain your situation, and ask if you can have the "given leave to remain etc etc" put on your passport, or if not, the possibility to apply for another ROA (Very expensive now). The ROA office in Liverpool do keep all the application records.
Realise you have a time limit stay on your Mal Passport. You could also shwo the Immigration your two passports. You would then loose your immigration stamp on your Mal Passport showing your travel movement, unless he takes pity on you and puts the "Given leave to enter ot remain etc etc" on your passport. Your problem then goes away, unless you are careless and loose your passport again.

The above are the only suggestions I can offer. Good luck in your endeavours

11 Aug, 2011 03:06:42

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
Orang Ula makes sense, but it seems be a bit complicated. An alternative is to leave things as they are. When the time comes to renew your British Passort, go back to the UK and apply. The processes takes two weeks, if you already have a british passport. If your features have changed then you have to submit documental proof once again. This process will take longer. Exit UK on your Malaysian passport.

Beware that circumnavigating the law is a risky business. Be mindful that passport machines record travel movements.

11 Aug, 2011 21:30:10

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Anita
@ Alex,
Hi, in your reply, you mentioned you know of friends that carry 2-3 passport. I'm interested to buy a second passport but do not know how and who is reliable. Can you check for me, how and where, or perhaps a contact ?
05 Oct, 2011 09:11:31

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) TEMPEST
Hi, I have london issued MAL passport, the old one has my ROA stamp - i carry both when i travel.

I live in the UK permanantly and probably always will. My parents never applied for UK passport for me when i was little, so now i am 33 still with MAL passport but am a legal UK resident.

I discovered that i can now get UK passport for "free" (just admin fee applies) because of Uk descent on mothers side.

My Question is:
1: If I get UK passport, do i just continue to travel to Malysia on MAL passport?
2: My dad has signed over property in my name in KL, if i lose my MAL passport, am I able to keep/claim the property in the long run? Does it get complicated?

Thanks for any help - much appreciated.

Tempest

13 Oct, 2011 06:03:01

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
A UK Passport makes it easier to travel, less questions and checks thrown at you. Do not give up your MY IC or MY passport if you continue to posess property in Malaysia. Makes it a lot easier in dealings etc.

The answer to your first question is "Yes", carrying your old ROA pasport with you. Malaysian immigration now check at the embarkation gate that you have valid entry to your destination country.

14 Oct, 2011 18:02:05

New MessageRE: Malaysia Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Matthew
I am a Malaysia citizen, was studying in Australia and become an Australia citizen, living in Australia now.

I wanted to hold both citizenship simply bcoz of parents living in Malaysia and my career in Australia.

I am wondering how to keep both dual nationality and avoid caught by Malaysia government?


By holding dual passport, how to avoid Malaysia government checking and caught if I need to travel back to Malaysia for more than a year time? :-

Travel from Aus to Malaysia
1. When I travel back to Malaysia from Aus, which passport should i use?

2. Will Aus custom stamp both of my passport when I depart from Aus to Malaysia?

3. And, when I reach Malaysia, by using Malaysia passport which allow me to stay as long as I could. But, will the Malaysia custom ask about my travel visa to Aus and why I do not have any arriving and departing stamp on the country I was visit?

4. How to avoid Malaysia custom found out that I am carrying two passport back to Malaysia during custom checking?

Travel from Malaysia to Australia.
5. Does it mean when I am travel back to Australia. I should use my Aus passport at Malaysia Custom as no visa require? Will they check when did I arriving to Malaysia?

6. If I use Malaysia passport travel back to Australia, will they ask for my Aus travel visa on malasyia passport which I would not have one due to dual citizen?


I know there are plenty of people holding dual nationality (incl Malaysia) but I really need to know how does it work before getting my Australia citizenship.

Thanks


I am a Malaysia citizen, was studying in Australia and become an Australia citizen, living in Australia now.

I wanted to hold both citizenship simply bcoz of parents living in Malaysia and my career in Australia.

I am wondering how to keep both dual nationality and avoid caught by Malaysia government?


By holding dual passport, how to avoid Malaysia government checking and caught if I need to travel back to Malaysia for more than a year time? :-

Travel from Aus to Malaysia
1. When I travel back to Malaysia from Aus, which passport should i use?

2. Will Aus custom stamp both of my passport when I depart from Aus to Malaysia?

3. And, when I reach Malaysia, by using Malaysia passport which allow me to stay as long as I could. But, will the Malaysia custom ask about my travel visa to Aus and why I do not have any arriving and departing stamp on the country I was visit?

4. How to avoid Malaysia custom found out that I am carrying two passport back to Malaysia during custom checking?

Travel from Malaysia to Australia.
5. Does it mean when I am travel back to Australia. I should use my Aus passport at Malaysia Custom as no visa require? Will they check when did I arriving to Malaysia?

6. If I use Malaysia passport travel back to Australia, will they ask for my Aus travel visa on malasyia passport which I would not have one due to dual citizen?


I know there are plenty of people holding dual nationality (incl Malaysia) but I really need to know how does it work before getting my Australia citizenship.

Thanks

16 Nov, 2011 15:08:20

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) EFYL
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After reading this thread, I am really concern about my situation.

I am Malaysian working abroad for 20 years in different countries. Few years ago I decided to get the US citizenship because I am tired of reapplying PR or Visitor visa every time I return to US after leaving the country more than 12 months. I do plan to eventually return to Malaysia permanently as my entire family are still there.

1) When I return to live in Malaysia, what do I have to do? Apply like a foreigner?
2) What happen to my IC? Will they cancel my IC? If so, how could I claim my EPF money back later?
3) What happen to the house that is under my name (bought prior to the change of citizenship)? Will it consider a foreign owned property?
4) If I buy a property now, am I considered foreigner?
5) If my father transfer property ownership to me now, will it considered foreign transaction?

My son was declined Malaysian citizenship because he was born overseas to a non Malaysian father. Only US government gave him citizenship eventhough he was born in a 3rd country. Now I have to wait until he finishes school in the US before I could return to Malaysia.

It may sound not so patriot but people do have various reason wanting to keep dual citizenship. I love my parents in Malaysia and I love my son too.

Comment and guidance appreciated.

24 Nov, 2011 08:10:40

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust123
I am living in Australia and is currently holding both Aust and M'sia passport. Successfully used both passports to travel to M'sia with no problem May this year (2011). The only way to do this is to transmit thru 3rd country eg. Singapore or Brunei.

Depart Aust-Aust Passport
Enter Brunei-M'sia Passport
Exit Brunei and Enter M'sia (Limbang)- M'sia Passport.
Exit M'sia and Enter Brunei- M'sia Passport
Exit Brunei (flight to Brisbane)- M'sia Passport. But show Brunei Immigration that I'll enter Aust using my Aust Passport. 3rd country don't care how many passport you have. But never show M'sia immi that u have 2 passports!!

Enter Aust- Aust Passport.

*FOR Aust passport holder, Aust immi will no stamp your Aust passport when you enter or exit Aust.

I am going back to Limbang (small Malaysian Town bordering Brunei) next month to renew my M'sia Passport.

Question:
Anyone has successfully using 2 passports like me before and can still renew Msian Passport in Malaysia with no problem? I worried that upon renewal, M'sia passport department may want me to produce my Aust Visa as if they checked my "in and out" of M'sia, they would realised that I lived most of my life outside M'sia.

Will they check or just blindly RENEW!!!!

Any feedback?

Thanks

27 Nov, 2011 19:38:55

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) PPV77
Dear Aust123,

How many times/years have you used your "technique" ?
Using a 3rd country seem to be the most practical method !

Rgds

07 Dec, 2011 09:55:53

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust123
Just got back from Brunei, Singapore, Malaysia trip in Jan 2012. Successfully renewed Malaysian Passport. Exit Aust using Aust passport and enter Aust using Aust Passport. Brunei, Singapore, Malaysia all use Malaysia passport. When coming back MUST use third country. ie Singapore in this case. Showed Singapore airport check in operator Malaysia passport and Aust passport. Malaysia to exit Singapore back to Aust and Aust passport to enter Aust.
21 Jan, 2012 13:20:21

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
Aust123, did Singapore immigration stamp your Malaysian passport when you transited there to catch your outbound flight?
22 Jan, 2012 04:59:56

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
It is the Singapore Changi Airport check in counter (to get your boarding pass) that check how you are going into Aust without Aust Visa on Malaysia Passport. Thus, I showed them my Aust Passport. Singapore Immigration just need a valid passport to enter and exit Singapore. They stamped my Malaysian Passport when Exit Singapore on outboard flight to Australia. Singapore Immigration did not care if you have valid passport to enter Aust. This is because they just responsible for in/out and it is NOT their job to check where you are going when EXIT the country.

The same thing applied to Brunei Airport.

22 Jan, 2012 18:41:46

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
Before you obtained your Cit status, you must have had documentary proof that you were legally entitled to stay without immigration restrictions,i.e. either a letter, or a stamp in one of your old passports. The Hi Com here in London will not renew my MY passport without me showing my old passport with the right of Abode Cert(ROC), showing I have unrestricted stay.

The automatic gates scan your passport and record your last 10 movements or so against a check list. If an issue is found, the gate won't open and the immigration officer will scan and check that you have valid reasons to be away, i.e working/student visa, or PR etc in your MY passport or ask for other documentary proof. Your MY passport has an exit stamp. The scan in MY will show how long you have been away....Your proof???? if questioned??????

23 Jan, 2012 06:52:41

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) USAguy77
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Hi Aut123,

I m contemplating of getting US citizenship. I am happy for your recent trips to Malaysia. Wonder:
1) Does your Aussie passport have the same name as your Malaysian Passport? [Note: 'coz in US, most people will change their First Name, eg Nelson Tan, or Wendy Chang, during naturalization process].

2) What Name did you use when you purchased your flight ticket back to Australia and also to Brunei? Did you just follow all the information in you Aussie passport? From what i know, for US and even Australia, you must depart or enter US using the same information using US passport.

3)Did Brunei Custom and S'pore Custom ask for your Aussie passport when you landed or departed? What information did you fill for the embarkation card/ departure card - based on Aussie passport or Malaysian passport?

Very grateful if you can reply.

All the best!

24 Jan, 2012 16:59:16

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
Hi Miri Boy,

Here is the answer:
Before you obtained your Cit status, you must have had documentary proof that you were legally entitled to stay without immigration restrictions,i.e. either a letter, or a stamp in one of your old passports. The Hi Com here in London will not renew my MY passport without me showing my old passport with the right of Abode Cert(ROC), showing I have unrestricted stay.

Answer: Aust government allow dual citizenship. Thus, obtaining citizenship of Aust will have no problem while having Malaysia citizenship. Once you obtained British citizenship say, if you need to renew your Malaysian Passport, DO NOT RENEW IN LONDON or in any high com. As you said, they will check your ROC and once you are British Citizen, then there will be no ROC right? Same as Australian won't have any Permanent Residency Visa on Malaysian Passport anymore. YOU NEED TO RENEW your PASSPORT in MALAYSIA ONLY!!!!

The automatic gates scan your passport and record your last 10 movements or so against a check list. If an issue is found, the gate won't open and the immigration officer will scan and check that you have valid reasons to be away, i.e working/student visa, or PR etc in your MY passport or ask for other documentary proof. Your MY passport has an exit stamp. The scan in MY will show how long you have been away....Your proof???? if questioned??????

ANSWER: I have entered Malaysia using Malaysian Passport TWICE so far in the past 12 months. My Malaysian passport don't have any foreign visa attached. It was really clean with a few stamp from mainly Singapore, Brunei, etc. The immigration officer is an "an passport analyzer". When enter in Malaysia using Malaysia passport, they just scan your passport and do nothing more than that!! Do not expect them to conduct "entry exit timeframe check". They don't paid high enough to check that in details and question you why you have been away from Malaysia for 2 years and where do you stay while overseas and where is your Visa status for overseas.

In case they ask?? If can say that your VISA for overseas stay eg. PR visa was on your old passport and you did not have it with you.

The same thing applied if you are trying to renew your Malaysian Passport in Malaysia. I was quite worried that Passport Officer will conduct "Entry, Exit time frame check" and ask me where is my Visa for overseas stay for such a long time. However, I have successfully renewed my PASSPORT with 1 hour express guaranteed pick up and no QUESTION ASKED!!! They either don't have time to check or too lazy or it was not on their standard operating protocol to check!!!

If they did said, just said that you left the old passport at home that has overseas resident visa. Then, too bad, you can't renew your passport then.

24 Jan, 2012 18:44:38

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
Correction to Miri Boy.

The immigration officer is an "an passport analyzer"

I meant, "immigration officer is NOT passport analyzer". At least, not in Malaysia... maybe in other countries???

24 Jan, 2012 18:48:36

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
Dear USA guy 77,

Here is the answer:
1) Does your Aussie passport have the same name as your Malaysian Passport? [Note: 'coz in US, most people will change their First Name, eg Nelson Tan, or Wendy Chang, during naturalization process].

Answer: I am using the SAME name on both Aussie and Malaysian Passport. Back to Malaysia 4 times in the past 5 years. The first 2 trips always used Aussie Passport for the whole trip and exit Aust, enter Malaysia, etc all use Aussie Passport. The last 2 trip used both passports was to "test the system" for the trip 6 months ago and renew passport for the trip in January 2012. Also, must use 2 passports if need to renew passport in Malaysia. You need to use Malaysia passport to ENTER Malaysia and renew there. If not, when passport officer checked, your status might still be overseas on the passport u tried to renew. Whenever possible, try just use Aussie Passport for the whole trip.

2) What Name did you use when you purchased your flight ticket back to Australia and also to Brunei? Did you just follow all the information in you Aussie passport? From what i know, for US and even Australia, you must depart or enter US using the same information using US passport.

Answer: Air ticket always have the same name as Passport ie for me, they are the same. Aust government advised dual citizen to use Aust passport to ENTER and EXIT Australia. It is up to you what passport to use to ENTER other countries in the world. But you might NOT have "Australian diplomatic protection" if you enter another country using non-Australian Passport.

3)Did Brunei Custom and S'pore Custom ask for your Aussie passport when you landed or departed? What information did you fill for the embarkation card/ departure card - based on Aussie passport or Malaysian passport?

Answer: When landed in Brunei and Singapore, I used my Malaysian Passport to enter. They will NOT ask for other passport as they don't care where you came in from. What they are checking mainly your criminal record, etc on the passport you are using to ENTER into their country.
When departed Brunei or Singapore TO AUSTRALIA, only the check-in counter will ask you how are you going to enter Australia without visa on your blank Malaysian Passport? I then showed them my Aust Passport and tell them this is how I enter Aust. The custom has no interest in your dual citizenship. Thus, never ask anything. Just use your Malaysian Passport to depart custom in Brunei or Singapore.

To fill in the card to enter Brunei/Singapore. I said that I am Malaysian. ie if you want to use Malaysian Passport to enter Brunei/Singapore, then disclose that you are Malaysian and use the Malaysian Passport details.

On the other hand, if you plan to use Aust Passport to enter Brunei/Singapore, then use your Aust Passport details to fill in the CARD. It is very simple.

Aust passport to enter Brunei need to pay B$30. Thus, best to enter Brunei using Malaysian Passport to avoid paying "visa on arrival fee" for Australian. For Singapore, Aust can enter with no visa and free!

Malaysia passport will last for 5 years. For the next 5 years, I'll only use Aust passport for my round trip and NOT using 2 passports. The use of 2 passports will be essential on the trip back home that you NEED TO RENEW your Malaysian Passport.

Whenever possible, try to avoid using 2 passports for overseas trip. Aust passport will have better diplomatic protection than Malaysia Passport if you stuck in a country where you need consular assistance.

24 Jan, 2012 19:07:22

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Frustrated Ahmad
Malaysian Govt. Do you read these and other postings on DUAL Nationality??? and the problems Malaysians encounter. I travel using my MY Passport and I am so frustrated having to be in Europe or other Caucasian areas. So often I am held up because ot the color of my skin and then further because of my MY Passport. And more too, when I return home I find that the Malaysian Immigration counter QUEUE is longer and than the foreign one at KILA, especially when the auto gates are not working! Those foreigners really laugh at us.

We cannot and should not allow Dual nationality for every country. Just as we ban travel to Israel, and in the past, China, and have various selective visa restrictions, surely we can also be selective for Malaysians to have Dual Nationality. Many Malaysians are overseas for economic reasons and the return renumerations to Malaysia are beneficial. Most of the countries that allow Dual Nationality are making it very difficult for non Caucasians to get citizenship now. Why penalise the dwindling Malaysians that are eligable. PLEASE look at our frustrations of travelling to Caucasian countries. I really feel sorry for some of the threads here where Malaysians have to break the law, so that they can travel and work away from home.

I do not have to spell out the countries I refer to. You said you were going to review this law a few years ago. KENA APA TIDAK BUNYI????!

25 Jan, 2012 21:43:27

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) USAguy77
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Hi Aust123,

Thanks for your reply.

By the way, is it possible for me to renew my passport at Malaysia consulate in Los Angeles? I am worried that the LA consulate will have my US permanent resident record since they asked for a copy of my permanent resident card.
[Note: currently, I have not yet applied for US citizenship.]

I read some threads that we should not renew our passport at the overseas consulate/high commission.

Will this cause problem if later I become US citizen and when i return to Malaysia to renew my Malaysian passport?

Have you ever renewed yr Malaysian passport when you were Aussie permanent resident with the Malaysian High
Commission in Australia?

Please share your view. Thanks!

26 Jan, 2012 21:15:33

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
Aust 123, Thks 4 Ur reply. Himmmmm, it seems so awful the things and risks we have to take as Malaysians in order not to loose our Citizenship.
26 Jan, 2012 23:48:58

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
Hi USAGuy77,

I never renew my Malaysian Passport in Australia because:
Malaysian government only allowed passport to be renewed in person in Canberra high com. Yes!! For the whole Australia as big as China, you are only allowed to go to one place in person ie Canberra to renew passport.

No postal renewal allowed!!

I am not sure if you renew your Malaysian Passport in LA and if you applied citizenship in the future, Malaysia government might find out if have dual citizenship. The best way is to try renew in Malaysia if you can.

It is a shame that as Malaysian we need to "break the law" to have dual citizenship where such privilege is openly available for most citizen of western countries. I have a Taiwanese friend legally hold 3 passports. ie New Zealand, Australia & Taiwan!!!!!!

I have read an online thread before that a member of parliament in Malaysia also have dual citizenship and it was revealed by Opposition in the Parliament. Due to "Malaysian way of doing thing", she (the politician) can openly break the law and nothing can be done on her. This "double standard" of law enforcement is really sad. Am I right? Is this factual? I might be wrong.

It would be more interested to learn more about this case and implication of "if caught with dual citizenship". Anyone can provide feedback on this?

I heard that the worse come to worse, if caught, you'll just have to denounce your Malaysian Citizenship.

All the best to anyone trying to hold dual citizenship. Towards the end, if you live in UK, US or AUS, etc almost half your life and there will be no possibility of living in Malaysia in the future, would it really matter if you lose your Malaysian citizenship? I know many Malaysian denounced Malaysian citizenship after getting Aust citizenship in order to get $$ out from EPF.

28 Jan, 2012 19:27:12

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Vonnie
I have read this thread with interest as I am in the same situation. However, one big BUT....

If I get a Brit passport the ROA in my old passport will eventually be 3,4,5 passports old as I have to renew my MY passport every 5 years. Currently my ROA sticker is in old passport 2 meaning I carry 2 MY passports with me but in 15 years time it will be in old passport 5! Does this make sense?

So how to solve the problem....

04 Feb, 2012 22:26:31

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
Hi Vonnie,

Will ROA ever expired or you need to renew it every 5 years? Will ROA cease to be issued or auto invalid once you are British Citizen?

In Australia, PR will have PR sticker on their M'sian Passport and is subject for renewal once every 5 years by Aust immigration. Thus, for PR you might renew your Msian passport but still have PR sticker in old passport ie carrying 2 passports is common for PR. Once you take up Aust citizenship, PR sticker will NOT be renewed anymore. Thus, you'll only have a blank Malaysian Passport.

As of 2012 real practical test case, Passport Office did not ask for my PR sticker as they did not conduct "country in, out analysis". Thus, it is possible to maintain 2 passports provided you use 3rd country eg Singapore or Brunei as a transit hub for your trip back to Malaysia from UK. Then, you can renew your passport in Malaysia with no problem.

Another option is to ask to see if British Immigration still can issue you a new ROA despite the fact that you are already citizen. I doubt it.

Hope this help.

05 Feb, 2012 17:24:25

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
I am in a similar situation. I have not applied for a ROA Cert. They cost £169 now, over RM500 each time. Once apon a time they only charged for the first one. Proof is now needed with each new application, and I cannot be bothered to send the documents to Liverpool. I just carry the old MY Passport with the ROA in it. 'Leave to remain' vignettes are also not tranferable. I have a doctor friend who has the same problem, but renews his MY passport in Miri.
I need to to renew my MY passport July 2012 in London. ROA Certs are only valid if the passport is current. My present MY passport does not have a ROA Cert. Will be interesting to note what the MY High Com will say to me.
If you get a Brit Passport you cannot apply for a ROA Cert. I do not intend to apply for a new ROA cert, but carry my old passport and then argue with the immi officer that I have already met the criteria of having PR in UK.
You could take a chance, apply for a Brit Passport, and then do what has been suggested here, always renew your MY passport in Malaysia, and then use either Singapore, Brunei, Bangkok etc to return to the UK on your Brit Passport. Also remember, you could apply for a ROA Cert at the UK High Com in KL, if you have the time, then your lengthy stay in UK will not be questioned.

Finally, its a real shame that the Concervative Govt. threw out UK ID cards. I was looking forward to get my UK PR ID Card. The two passport problem would have gone away!

07 Feb, 2012 00:01:52

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
Hi Miri Boy,

Western countries usually don't have ID card. Australia also don't have one and the idea of introducing one has been strongly opposed by most Australian and ideology of Civil libertarianism.

Government is not free to introduce what they want and opposition power is very strong.

08 Feb, 2012 16:53:01

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Miri Boy
To clarify. Tony Blair/Gordon Brown's Labour Govt. had already started issuing ID Cards in the UK Midlands on a voluntary basis. About 30,000 took up the offer at £30 a throw. The final roll out was to be a modified special for UK PRs who were non UK Cits, i.e. MYs SINs etc. David Cameron (Con Govt) threw the scheme out and destroyed the ID database. All issued UK ID cards are now invalid.
09 Feb, 2012 00:26:36

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Aust 123
Hi Miri Boy,

Interesting story. This showed that most westerners wanted privacy and prefer NOT to have ID cards. Also, UK government responded to public pressure even it was just voluntary roll out???

Anyway, we'll keep this forum as "Dual Nationality" so that we don't branch out too much.

Awaiting for more people to contribute to this forum.

09 Feb, 2012 21:41:23

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified Girl times) nivea11
Hi Aus123

i was thinking to get a nz citienship recently.. I have read how you enter and exit msia/aus. its sounds great and a few people i know that are holding a dual citizenship were doing the same things. but i found a few problems when i was travelling that really concerned me.

26 Feb, 2012 10:58:13

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) JJ123
I have reside in Australia for more than 10yrs and am considering returning to Msia permanently. I'm also stressing if I should take up dual citizenship. I personally know many Malaysians with have dual citizenship that lives in Australia but have not come across anyone that actually lives in Msia permanently. I can confirm that the 3rd country trick works via HK and Singapore. My concern is if msian gov found out about my dual citizenship, will I get kicked out of the country and what are the consequences such as properties I've purchased in Msia. My family lives in Msia and I'm marrying my partner who's a msian. Had anyone been caught yet so far? Has anyone heard of the Returning Expert Programme? If I apply for it, will the Msia gov then check my citizenship with another country? For those stressing about renewing passport in Canberra, the department has recently moved to Melbourne. Appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance.
31 Jul, 2013 23:09:54

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) James Blond
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I had the same problem but then it was all solved, all i had to do was contact an Aussie called Peter Profit, his a facebook celebrity based in Kuala Lumpur, he recently attained his malaysian citizenship dispite not being born in malaysia. And it was all legal.

James

24 Aug, 2013 10:24:17

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Diggety
Does Australia government reveal new citizens say malaysian to the Malaysian government? I know the UK has a new legislation that they will not disclose these informations. What about Australia?
02 Sep, 2013 15:28:19

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) cool way
Hi,
I read that some ppl with dual passport is using singapore as 3rd country to enter malaysia. Does the singapore officer at airport ask when they see how come the malaysia passport no entered date to
singapore? How this can be solve?
14 Sep, 2013 20:04:52

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Kino
To Aus123 and all other people out there wondering about dual Mas/Aus nationality and entering via a 3rd country:
Yes it works - I have been doing it for years and years. Here is all you have to remember:

1) If you are travelling to Malaysia from Australia, only use your Australian passport to enter and leave Australia.

2) Always go via a 3rd country - Brunei or Singapore. Brunei is better because you can get in and out of the airport quickly and they process you quickly. Use your Malaysian passport when you arrive and leave that country so that it has their stamp on it. Generally use Brunei for East Malaysia and Singapore for West Malaysia. Also, land border crossings into Malaysia are really slack and don't ask as many questions. Flying from Bandar Seri Begawan to KK is also okay.

3) Always renew your Malaysian passport in Malaysia. This means you have to go back at least every 5 years and you cannot EVER let it expire or lose it while you are overseas.

4) If you want to make your journey smoother when you leave Malaysia (for example if you want to fly Royal Brunei all the way and check in at KK for both legs without the hassle of checking in again in Brunei), apply for an ETA (tourist visa) in your Malaysian passport for Australia. This is issued by Malaysian airlines for about RM30 and is valid for a year. When you check in at the airport the airline will see the ETA and can check you in all the way to Australia. Otherwise they may only check you in to Brunei as they cannot see a valid entry visa to Australia. And of course you don't want to show anyone in Malaysia, not even the airline, your Australian passport.

5) If you need to demonstrate a visa to enter Aust when you are in the 3rd country, just show them your Aust passport. Like others have already said, they don't give a stuff whether you have 10 citizenships - its none of their business.

Hope that helps. Anyone need any more tips, just ask.

20 Sep, 2013 21:59:53

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Seeker
It's good to see responses on this topic. I am in a similar situation to most of you, having 2 passports, including a Malaysian one. The only problem I have now is that my Malaysian passport expired quite a long time ago (12 years) and now I am wanting to renew it. I have been using my Australian passport to enter and exit Malaysia in the last few years. If I return to Malaysia to renew my Malaysian passport, which expired 12 years ago, what is the best approach? One of my friends suggested reporting my Malaysian passport as lost and then applying for a new one in Malaysia with my IC/myKad and my Malaysian birth certificate. Any suggestions or past experiences?
23 Sep, 2013 08:57:14

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Ryan
The Uk government has new Biometric Residence Permits like Identity Cards for new permanent residents in the UK. No more visas in the passports

Should be interesting to see whether these Biometric Permits (stating indefinite leave to remain) will be taken away by the UK gov, if one applies for British citizen ship

05 Oct, 2013 04:45:21

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Kellie
I have a quick question, to use 3rd country to get in and out of Malaysia, do I buy a flight ticket to Singapore then another ticket from Singapore to Malaysia. I am a US citizen. Please help.
05 Oct, 2013 23:06:33

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Randomlee
I recently renew my passport which had already expired since 2012 July in Malaysia. Therefore, I entered malaysia via australian passport. An immigration officer told me that the passport department and the airport are not linking to each other. So as long as "you are" still a warganegara, you can always renew your passport without any issue. The immigration office won't ask and don't even check on your passport (at lease she didn't checked mine). So I suggested you can try with your IC first. Report lost, and keep your IC save from now on. You would get to know if you are still a warganegara by reporting stolen IC. Once you had renew your IC, you are ok to renew your passport. \
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And now I am having an issue, seeking for an experienced person for help. Since I entered malaysia via Australia passport, I therefore have to go out from the country every 3 months to "extened"my stay in Malaysia legally. However, since I have got my malaysia passport, I wish to clear my record on the Australia passport, I wish to get "keluar" stamped on my Australia passport. But would it be ok, if I go to Brunei by check out with Australia passport so that I can get the "keluar" stamped, then check in and out at Brunei with Malaysia passport, and then get back in malaysia with Malaysia passport ? I am a bit worrying if they ask how come I do not have any check out record on my malaysia passport.\
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Thanks.
22 Oct, 2013 17:29:05

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Seeking
Randomlee, thanks for your update on the dual nationality situation. That's really helpful for those of us in the situation. To clarify, you successfully renewed your passport just with your IC? I renewed my IC a few months ago, so I know that I am still a warganegara. This means that it won't matter if I entered Malaysia with my Aussie passport? This resolves the question of whether I have to report my passport as "lost" to avoid questions about how I got into the country.

Also can you please let us know whether they flipped through your passport or looked at your details closely? Because my expired Malaysian passport says that my place of residence is in Australia when I was a PR there, so I am a little worried about that. Thanks.

23 Oct, 2013 08:58:16

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Randomlee
Seeking, I am having the same situation as yours. I had the PR label on my previous passport. They didn't look onto it. They just look at only the front page with my info on it, that's all. Good luck.

And now I am having an issue, seeking for an experienced person for help. Since I entered malaysia via Australia passport, I therefore have to go out from the country every 3 months to "extened"my stay in Malaysia legally. However, since I have got my malaysia passport, I wish to clear my record on the Australia passport, I wish to get "keluar" stamped on my Australia passport. But would it be ok, if I go to Brunei by check out with Australia passport so that I can get the "keluar" stamped, then check in and out at Brunei with Malaysia passport, and then get back in malaysia with Malaysia passport ? I am a bit worrying if they ask how come I do not have any check out record on my malaysia passport.

Thank you.

23 Oct, 2013 10:22:22

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Seeking
Randomlee, thank you for your quick reply. I cannot speak from personal experience but from the various posts under different topics in this forum, it seems that if you leave Malaysia with your Aussie passport, you can then come in again using your Malaysian passport at the Autogate provided that you have already used your Malaysian passport once (to activate it). It seems like what this means is something like the following:
Leave Malaysia for Brunei with new Malaysian passport.
Enter Brunei with new Malaysian passport.
Enter Malaysia with new Malaysian passport.
Leave Malaysia with Australian passport (no overstay record after this).
Enter Malaysia with Malaysian passport using Autogate.

I don't yet have personal experience with this but it seems to be what the others are suggesting. What I have heard from others (where they have always entered and left Malaysia with their Malaysian passports in the past) is that you should choose Brunei, Thailand, Indonesia or Hong Kong as your third country for immigration as Singapore is very close to Malaysia and they often catch Malaysians at the border for various suspicious activities. The other neighbouring countries are less concerned with Malaysians as a focus.

23 Oct, 2013 10:44:41

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) QcPr
Just another rant to ponder ... you all know the law on Malaysian citizenship. Please stop making suggestions to circumvent by telling the world especially in written form right here. Sooner or later the whole thing will blow on your face with adverse consequences. If you love Malaysian life, then by all means, retain its citizenship and remain as a PR of another country.
26 Oct, 2013 10:23:39

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 4 times) asdf
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Qopr,

Why don't you tell that to Jamila?

Enter this link into your browser:

http://www.sarawakreport.org/2011/12/my-wife-is-canadian-sean-murray-exposes-jamilahs-dual-nationality/

to see the following report:


“My Wife Is Canadian!” – Sean Murray Exposes Jamilah’s Dual Nationality!

11 Dec 2011

This post is also available in: Iban, Malay

High society – The Taib-Murrays are prominent among Ottawa’s wealthy set
Sean (Hisham) Murray, husband of Taib’s daughter Jamilah, appears to have unwittingly exposed his wife’s illegal dual nationality!

Under BN’s own strict laws, Malaysians are not allowed two passports and they have to surrender their Malay nationality if they take citizenship elsewhere.

However, last week Murray told a Canadian TV company his wife was a “Canadian citizen”, although she is clearly registered as a Malay in the numerous companies that she owns in Sarawak.

It is common knowledge that Malay nationality is valuable for shareholders and directors of Malaysian companies, because most government contracts require that companies should have ‘Bumiputera Status’. This means they should be at least 51% owned by indigenous Malay nationals.

However, if Jamilah has decided to take Canadian citizenship, she should have surrendered that status under Malaysian law.

“My wife and I are private Canadian citizens”!

For these reasons the statement by Sean Murray to Canada’s Global TV last week, is extremely embarrassing. He told the company, “my wife and I are private Canadian citizens”. Yet company records in back in Malaysia clearly state the opposite.

We can demonstrate that 51 year old Jamilah still claims Malaysian citizenship in all the documentation concerning the 87 companies, where we have identified her as a shareholder and director. Her ID card number is given as 600919-71-5044 and she is registered at Wisma Mahmud, the Headquarters of CMS.

http://www.sarawakreport.org/2011/12/my-wife-is-canadian-sean-murray-exposes-jamilahs-dual-nationality/

26 Oct, 2013 16:37:25

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) QcPr
@asdf

Legally, Canada allows its citizens to hold dual (perhaps more) nationality. This means acquiring canadian citizenship, one does not have to revoke his/her foreign citizenship. Under Malaysian law, this is very different ie it is SOLE citizenship for Malaysians. One loses Malaysian citizenship when one acquires another country's citizenship. Then Malaysian authorities should revoke Malaysian citizenship on those who take foreign nationality like you stated about Jamila. However, there are people with the right (political and/or $$) connections who can be "scot-free" despite of such publicity. Ordinary folks have to be more careful. I do not condone such practices of having dual citizenship namely you can not be loyal to two or more countries if all hell breaks loose eg warring beween those same nations whose one hold both citizenships.

28 Oct, 2013 05:58:56

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) asdf
Q, Legally almost all nations today except malaysia (if u consider it worthit) worth living in allow dual citizenships. Perhaps if war broke out between malaysia and canada, we shoould wait until malaysia conquers canada then burn the canadian passport right? Is that what you advise? Wait till the malaysian flag is flying over toronto?
28 Oct, 2013 07:58:44

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) QcPr
@asdf

Dual nationality is like a "flag of convenience" by taking advantages of the "better" than the "lesser". Have you heard of the news about lebanese canadians (canadians with lebanese citizenship)in Lebanon. When the situation turned worse, these dual citizens invoked their canadian identity to get help from canadian government when they knew that such adverse conditions would happen where they "happily" once living in Lebanon before the conflict(s). Another example: Free Health Country A, No/$$ health Country B: Citizen AB worked and lived in Country B, paying taxes to B, none to Country A. Then at some point, AB knows that he/she need costly medical services. Where does he/she goes? Guess who will be "most unhappy"? The ones holding sole c'ship of A who are paying both taxes to give to that citizen AB who move back to Country A.

Anyway, what I want to say is NOT to bring attention to/expose methods/ways too openly for Malaysia Immigration(MI)if MI seriously decides to take action against violators at a later date.

29 Oct, 2013 08:41:30

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Asdf
Poor Jamila, shes going to loose everything...
29 Oct, 2013 15:09:38

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Traveller21
Hi, I have a question regarding the place of birth on Australian passport. As I was born in Malaysia the place of birth will show Malaysia in my Australian passport, won't this raise alarm bell with the custom officers at the check in/out counter when getting my passport stamped? Won't he/she be asking if I have a Malaysian passport?
31 Oct, 2013 13:10:39

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Seeking
No it does not matter where you were born since they will assume that you have given up your Malaysian citizenship. I wouldn't worry about it. There are lots of peeople with passports of a country where they were not born. I have been in and out of the country on my Aussie passport and I was born in Malaysia.
31 Oct, 2013 16:31:56

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Traveller21
Thanks Seeking.
04 Nov, 2013 13:51:35

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Traveller21
I put in a smiley face, no idea why it came up red and angry.
04 Nov, 2013 13:52:21

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) BudBud
Hi All,

For those who successfully entering Malaysia with Australia/UK passport (most probably a question for Aust123). How do you fill up the immigration declaration form? There are questions bothering me as below:

Given that my aussie passport stated I was born in WP Kuala Lumpur.

First Visit to Malaysia: Yes or No?
Have you ever use passport under different name to enter Malaysia: Yes or No ?

22 Mar, 2014 06:49:27

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Just in
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JJ123
I have reside in Australia for more than 10yrs and am considering returning to Msia permanently. I'm also stressing if I should take up dual citizenship. I personally know many Malaysians with have dual citizenship that lives in Australia but have not come across anyone that actually lives in Msia permanently. I can confirm that the 3rd country trick works via HK and Singapore. My concern is if msian gov found out about my dual citizenship, will I get kicked out of the country and what are the consequences such as properties I've purchased in Msia. My family lives in Msia and I'm marrying my partner who's a msian. Had anyone been caught yet so far? Has anyone heard of the Returning Expert Programme? If I apply for it, will the Msia gov then check my citizenship with another country? For those stressing about renewing passport in Canberra, the department has recently moved to Melbourne. Appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance.
31 Jul, 2013 23:09:54


Hi JJ123,
I am in similar situation. Have you got some clarifications on your situation? Would you mind to share?
Thanks,

31 Aug, 2014 15:55:29

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) jenn
Hi Everyone,

My husband (who is a dual citizen of Malaysia and the USA), our 7 year old daughter (US born citizen), and I (US citizen) would really like to move for a time (a least a few years) to KL to live with his aging parents. He is a telecom engineer and has tried to apply for jobs with the hope of getting legal sponsorship. He almost had a job as they thought they could sponsor and then said no. His IC is still valid but his Malaysian passport has expired so he would need to renew sometime when back in Malaysia. So I'm thinking he can go back to Malaysia on his US passport, renew his Malaysian passport and work legally with his IC. My big concern is how me and my daughter will legally stay there? I know we can go in and out of Malaysia every three months, but can she go to school without a long term visa? And if he applies for a spouse/dependent visas for us would they question his status in the USA?

Any insight would be appreciated.

10 Oct, 2014 01:22:43

New MessageRE:Dual nationality (modified 0 times) Help
Hi all

I have a question seeking for help, I'm holding us & malaysia passport. Recently I found that my malaysia passport had expired on sep 2014, I have been travel back to malaysia by using us passport for few times. I want to come back to renew my passport , can I renew malaysia passport if I enter to malaysia with us passport? Also my last stamp in malaysia passport was 2012 enter to us when that time I get us passport, which mean no exit stamp from us in my malaysia passport.

I'm abit worrying they won't allow me to renew my passport, any advise?

01 Nov, 2014 01:37:10


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